Sunday, September 29, 2013

Paris Peace Conference Notes

Dash (-) in front of a point means that the issue/point was raised by that particular country

Asterisk (*) in front of a point means that country challenged another country on that particular issue

Resolution/final outcome of treaty can be found under "Resolution" section located at the bottom of the spreadsheet

Austria-Hungary


REPARATIONS

-equal reparations according to %

LAND

-any land that has been conqured during smaller wars should be kept
-original pre-war borders should be returned/kept
*US-balkans should not be independent/not politically stable. Should remain under control.
*Would split up into Austria Hungary yet retain control over Serbia
*not prepared to give them independence 

ARMAMENT

-based on population
-same weapons
*none
*questions directed to US re: proposal for India to be self-governing
France
-everyone should pay a % of overall wealth (8%)
-central powers should pay 10%
-Germany & Austria-Hungary should accept war responsibility
-Repayment can be made in resources
*10% would go to replaying the US
-1/2 debt to be repaid to US with reparations over course of 50 years, the remaining maximum 100 years, with increasing interest rate
-colonies – burden on the countries economy, should be given political autonomy
-Give political autonomy to their colonies in Ottoman empire
-Feel Ottoman empire should be returned to them/Germany has Tsar/could be dangerous for them to have both (only happened 40 years ago)
-Most people in the region still identify themselves as being French
-Tsar should be given over to the LOL to distribute the coal to Germany as needed (no to be trusted)
*Taking away a portion of your land (Ger) /should give back Alsac and lorrain (5x greater loss)
*Tsar should not be independently held by Germany, but should be allowed to access the resources of
-no decrease in armies
-Germany has limit in army size (need limit)
*US- Ger is responsible to have a larger army than Britain and France
*continued to challenge
Germany
-Because Alsac and Lorraine has already been taken away, that should be payment enough
-8% as suggested by France
-colonies should stay under control of nations as finished post-war
-what are the motives to strip/take away land from one country/aggressor nations
-taking too much could result in future problems/offences/consequnces
*Taking the Tsar valley is more of a political offence than of actual strategic value. What is the value of the LOL taking control over the Rhur?
*Is the humiliation worth it?
*Alsac and Lorraing was given to Germany in fair reparation negotiations
*France- contradictory statements questioning the distrubution of coal if Tsar is under the control of the LOL

-no limits on specific countries based on fault or involvement/role
*US – equal opportunity for all to defend?
*countries are not in the position to have self-determination
*could plausibly lead to another war
*could mandates be considered
*what is the extent of enforcement to ensure loyalty? (US)
*continued to question formula for colonial self-determination (US)
Britain
-Every country that took part in the war will contribute a % of their overall annually wealth
-post-war wealth amount calculated after damages
-sliding scale of reparation payments to be decided by LOL
*How does US propose to reply loans (gradually) over the course of 50 years
-borders of colonies pre war should not be reconsidered
(Alsac and Lorraine should be returned to France)
-colonies should remain in present control (India)
-if a country is economically stable enough, they should have the ability to govern on a local level
-No further expansion of colonies/imperialism (to be internationally enforced with sanctions)
*Appreciate India’s loyalty but want to maintain control
*Taking Tsar in LOL control- not to punish Germany but to everyone’s advantage
-size should only reflect national defence
-no chemical weapons
*no concerns
*colonies should be self-governing
*current colonies that are under the control of another country should remain so with military posts in the nation for purposes of defence
India
-Every country that took part in the war will contribute a % of their overall annually wealth

-Seek independence
-No representaion locally,
-Jewel in the crown
-Independence, but would still maintain ties of loyalty

-national defence
-destruction of chemical weapons
*no questions
*no comments/feedback while discussing India’s independance
Ottoman
-Every country that took part in the war will contribute a % of their overall annually wealth
-post-war wealth amount calculated after damages (included resources, resent economic state)
-sliding scale of reparation payments to be decided by LOL
-join war based on defense so they should not pay the same amount as “aggressor” nation

-Colonies pre-war should remain under current current control but should be guided by others
-Colonies should remain under the control of the country that governs them
-Independence granted according to self-sustainability/economics needs
-Alsac and Lorrain should be returned
*France/US proposed that Tsar should be under the control of the LOL/ not stable and no real way to enforce what is decided. What specific nationality would the people in the area? Whose control would it be under? German control- resources are the only thing that is monitored. Control would be phased out over time. To be monitored by economic sanctions
-remain at current size (able to defend national interests)
-no rebuilding
-disposal of chemical weapons (to be enforced with economic sanctions)
*US – Britain controls many colonies – would what you suggest apply to all of their colonies as well
*questioning independence/loyalty = contradiction to US
*how would you ensure loyalty
Russian
-Every country that took part in the war will contribute a % of their overall annually wealth, taking into consideration property damages
-Should be given $ reparations instead

-Germany and France should make agreement (60/40 split)
-Russia has a say in how Polish corridor is goverened
-Austria Hungary should be divided into independent Austira and Hungary
-all of the land taken from turkey should be returned to
-Tsar is not totally reliable to entrusted into care of LOL
*Feels Aus-Hung should not retain control over Serbia because Russia has stronger cultural ties to Bosnia than A/H
*Russia wants to take over Serbia
-arms reduced (especially England-air, naval)
-rebuilt according to population, land mass
-agressors should be rebuilt/stripped/taken away entirely
*Addressing US – they have suffered harsher losses than other participating countries
*Think they should be able to rebuild
*Have no land damage during war
US
-pool together %10 of their resources to rebuild
-France and Britain to repay all loans
-France, brit and Russia to pay 1/2 debt to be repaid to US with reparations over course of 50 years, the remaining maximum 100 years, with increasing interest rate
-Every country that took part in the war will contribute a % of their overall annually wealth, taking into consideration property damages (6/8)

-self-determination for all colonies
-national groups should be allowed to form their own nation states
-poland should be given land and territory (Balkans own, Turkey & poland)
-tsar – LOL
-Alsac & Lor returned
-reduced to lowest point until able to nationally defend
-according to population
*struggled to defend based on population-not strong logic to defend
*willing to go forwards on a “gamble”
*permission for British colonies to defend (self-determination). Colonies are included in Britains population. Colonies have their own independent army
*want equal standards for everyone
*Want everyone to have their own army
Resolution
-Russia should have to pay portion of France/Brit war reparations (5/8)
-Ottoman has less responsibilith than “aggressor nations” (5/8)
-pre-war border stand (2/8)
-All pre-war same except Alsaca & Lor (5/8)
- post war colonies remain under control of current nation (exceotion france returns colonies to ottoman- eastern borders)(6/8)
aust-hung separating into indep.nation (5/8)
-Tsar will be under control of LOL (5/8)
-India control & independence (5/8)
-No further colonial expansion (6/8)
-Armenian territories to be returned to Russia that were taken during Armenian genocide (3/8)

-0 tolerance for chemical weapons (7/8)
-economic sanctions (7/8)
-armanaments reduced according to pop (3/8)
-agressors stripped (0/8)
-armamanets rebubilt according to population (1/8)
-land mass (1/8)
-national defence (7/8)
-colonial outposts for defence (7/8)



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